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Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Woodchoppers
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2014.07.20 08:17:00 -
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Sure, just grab a ship and start the punitive action! I mean, a -6 sec char is fair game to everyone. Do grab something Amarrian for that extra judgemental flair. If you didn't want them in your hi-sec why didn't you stop them? |
Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Belators
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:44:00 -
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Seems this discussion been sidetracked. Last I checked title mentioned ganking and nothing about scamming. Only adjustment anywhere near reasonable to ask for in this case is may be a bigger hit on security status. Either way, bad security standings and kill rights are more than enough to allow retribution. Sure you'll probably not be able to exact the same amount of isk damage. But if you cannot take the loss. Don't fly it. Or do, but don't cry when it blows up.
And if neither ganking nor scamming was allowed, game would be kinda dead in the water. Back when I tried running indy I got my kicks of knowing any moment all that hard work could be negated by a single well placed Antimatter charge. |
Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Belators
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:11:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Should it be a virtual death sentence when going through Uedama? No way.
If it is, it's because people have come together as a group to make it so. Never flown freighter but been told a webber friend get you around most often before any bumper gets you dead in the waters.
Do you think a dedicated effort from a group should easily be countered by a single player? |
Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Belators
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.10.14 09:08:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Lots of confusion as usual from the nerf highsec/ganker folks.
You seem to be the only confused one in here if we're to be frank.
Veers Belvar wrote:1. Utilizing known exploits disallowed by the EULA - Titan bumping in a POS, evading CONCORD, etc.... essentially "cheating" to gain an unfair advantage in the game. Doing so certainly shows a deficit in moral values.
I assume you're referring to plain good ol' bumping here. Which in a post right here on same sub-forum been verified as a valid tactic, used in many places in this game. More so than in the process of ganking. Bumping someone INSIDE their own POS shield was however deemed an exploit. Just like evading CONCORD is, and people can can get banned for them.
Dodging faction police and players that don't have the balls to engage suspects, not an exploit.
Veers Belvar wrote:2. Using the game to do other bad stuff - harassment, doxing, etc..... Again, a moral values problem.
I'm sure there are scammers out there that have taken it too far so it might be labeled harassment. A scammer doxing someone, well that's probably first time I hear it mentioned. And guess what BOTH BANNABLE OFFENCES. Your definition of harassment however might need reviewing before taking the moral high ground.
Veers Belvar wrote:3. Margin trading scam, etc.... Doing something that you know is misleading, and CCP would fix if it had an easy way to do so. You use the market's appearance of legitimacy to hoodwink new players (vets don't fall for this) into buying worthless junk by posting fraudulent buy orders that you never intend to execute. It's the type of garbage that would 100% land you in jail if done in RL, and adds literally no value to the game. And so yes, doing garbage like that does show a certain lack of moral values.
Thing is, market scams does bring value to the game. And as been stated over and over - this is not a problem for new players so don't even bring that into the discussion. The victim had enough of isk to buy an item well beyond it's worth. Thought she could make quick spacebucks and failed. Pulling a scam off in a game, is not something reflecting your ethics in real life. |
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